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This summer, California's boundary-pushing post-metal band Deafheaven will be releasing their long awaited fourth record, Ordinary Corrupt Human Love, on ANTI- records (July 13th). The band will be out on the road for the rest of this year touring the new material. Catch them when they come through your neck of the woods.

I had a beer with Deafheaven singer George Clarke behind Vancouver's Rickshaw Theatre the last time they were in my hometown. We watched a rat gang war erupt in the alley as we sipped local brews and I teased George, complaining about how long Deafheaven songs tend to be--too long for radio!

Which band did George need to make sure was on the guestlist that night and why? What's it like to play music on Ketamine? How do Deafheaven piece together the different parts of their long songs? What's George's relationship with his audience when the fans need to seek out what he's saying in the songs (because of his vocal style)? What were the core struggles George was dealing with on the band's third record, New Bermuda? Why are metal fans so passionate about the genre? What do George and Stéphane from Alcest have long conversations about? What's the funniest mean thing that George has read about himself? How did The Cranberries and Sixpence None the Richer influence Deafheaven? What does Burt Bacharach have to do with anything? You'll have to listen to find out.

Tracks played on the podcast edition of the show...

1) Deafheaven, New Bermuda (2015) "Come Back"
2) Deafheaven, Sunbather (2013) "Dream House"
3) Deafheaven, New Bermuda (2015) "Brought to the Water"
4) Deafheaven, Sunbather (2013) "The Pecan Tree" (snippet/background)
5) The Cranberries, Everybody Else Is Doing It, So Why Can't We? (1993) "Linger" (snippet/background)
6) Deafheaven, Sunbather (2013) "The Pecan Tree" (snippet/background)
7) Deafheaven, New Bermuda (2015) "Brought to the Water" (snippet/background)
8) Sixpence None the Richer, Sixpence None the Richer (1997) "Kiss Me" (snippet/background)
9) Deafheaven, New Bermuda (2015) "Brought to the Water" (snippet/background)

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