Vince and Max talk to strategy's favourite son, Julian Cole. An educator, a comms planner, a consultant, and a diplomat Julian schools us on how to ask for cash, sell in crazy creative ideas, and avoid existential disaster in your fourties. In the pitch segment we gave Julian the hardest task for the podcast so far, and that’s to get 40% of the world’s search engine users to switch from Google, to BING. How will he do it? Listen to find out.