In the 20th episode of Battle Rhythm, Season 2 with co-hosts Steve Saideman & Anessa L. Kimball, author of the new book, Beyond 2% – NATO partners, institutions & burden management: Concepts, risks & models. Steve & Anessa discuss NATO defence spending, intelligence leaks, Chinese police stations in North America and the civil war in Sudan. This week's interview is with Jānis Garisons, State Secretary of the Ministry of Defence of the Republic of Latvia. During the interview, Steve & Jānis discuss Operation Enhanced Forward Presence, conscription and resilience.