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Dave Graney talks with New Zealand songwriter, writer, substacker, musician and all around interesting character George Henderson. Both vintage players, both pale South Seas human beings having lived lives as sui generis voices off in colonial outposts of the Anglo American world of popular and unpoular music. Made guys. Veterans of the psychic wars! (thank you Blue Oyster Cult). They chime strangely on so many occult scores, streams and fellow travellers. Weirdly normal types. But as Mark E Smith once quoth "ya don't have to be weird to be weird..."