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Keith Simon is the author of a new book called 'Truth Over Tribe: Pledging Allegiance to the Lamb, Not the Donkey Or the Elephant.' He joins us to discuss the problems with tribalism — and what we can do to combat it. (The conversation starts at 12:53.)

Plus, in “Headlines” (1:06), Dr. Ken Keathley discusses ChatGPT. Is this new AI good, bad, or something else? In “On My Bookshelf” (39:37) he recommends a book.

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