Maureen Pollard interviews Jill about her experience of suicide loss. They discuss how her son was on the Austism spectrum with high-functioning Aspergers, and how it made it difficult for him to connect with and understand people; and difficult to give and receive love. This led to him struggling, becoming angry, holding emotion in and despite the family's many attempts to help him, he eventually ended up following through with his threats to hurt himself. Jill describes how grief is "a whole body experience, it affects your mind, it affects your body physically" and how she would wake up with panic attacks, consumed with guilt over the fact that she couldn't save her son. They also discuss how she pushed through by deciding she needed to do what her son couldn't - work through and move forward - and how she became very vocal about her grief in order to process it, even when that made others feel uncomfortable, because her son was unable to talk about his feelings.