Radio host sits down with Vanity Fair's Donald Liebenson to talk about the untimely passing of comedian Norm Macdonald. Specifically, they talk about a 1997 incident on Conan O'Brien's talk show in which Macdonald roasted Carrot Top and his film "Chairman of the Board", being promoted by actress Courtney Thorne-Smith. They also talk about comedy, generally, and the podcasting work of Gilbert Gottfried!