Fish are compassionate, recognize themselves in the mirror, and fancy designed shelters over natural ones. Recent experiments contest common ideas of what distinguishes humans from smaller, non-mammalian creatures of the sea. Ingo Niermann in conversation with Alex Jordan, Principal Investigator at the Department of Collective Behaviour at the Max Planck Institute in Konstanz, Germany. We speak at this home near Lake Constance.
Ocean Wants is a series of ten podcasts that playfully explores how nonhumans could like our planet to be. Conceived and hosted by Ingo Niermann, Ocean Wants was commissioned to celebrate TBA21–Academy’s tenth Anniversary.
Commissioned and produced by TBA21–Academy
Conceived, hosted, and edited by Ingo Niermann
Music composed and arranged by Ville Haimala
Intro read by Joan Jonas
Credits read by Staci Bu Shea
Sound edited by Robin Michel
Produced by Ingo Niermann and María Montero Sierra
