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Tom Sabatino, serial General Counsel for some of America's greatest corporations, is now steering Tenneco through the tempest of ESG.

As he says, corporations are facing enormous pressures from investors, regulators and customers, and facing temptation to overpromise. He cautions about making long term commitments that may not be achievable.

In this conversation with Garrick Isert, Sabatino offers practical advice for senior leaders who need to succeed with ESG, and yet cannot control all the environmental factors.

Essential listening for anyone with an ESG role in a corporation.