The Chris Williams Podcast Hour Episode 13 Gardner Payne, the three time North Carolina Boxing Manager of the year, joins the podcast to discuss his career as a boxing manager. Payne of Payne Boxing and the Payne Boxing Series tells some great stories about his time in politics as a lobbyist and how he was able to take some of the lessons he learned lobbying and turn it into a triumphant career as a boxing manager. The NC State Alum excitedly discusses his 2nd installment of the Payne Boxing Series on Nov 7th in Rock Hill, South Carolina, shares the keys to being a great manager, and changes he wants to make to improve North Carolina boxing.