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Each time I’ve talked with him, Ron Goode, the Tribal Chair of the North Fork Mono Tribe, he deposits wide chunks of previously unknown history and wisdom.

In this exchange, little has changed, with the exception of us driving out of the known, and into the mystic, unexplainable, yet real.

Ron in this episode riffs with me on the type of philosophy abundant in America today, what better ways there are to think about tending a forest, issuing better hunting tags, stories from his childhood, before ending on a truth about our time.

If you ever have time, I encourage you to join or donate to one of the cultural burns that Ron puts on. He’s a wellspring of knowledge and I truly hope those who are in charge of managing our lands start to listen to his words, instead of merely hearing them.