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In this episode we sat down with Dr. Karen Smith, former Special Adviser of the UN Secretary-General on the Responsibility to Protect (R2P). The episode explores how Dr. Smith has worked as both an academic and practitioner on atrocity prevention, as well as the difficulties of transitioning from an independent role to working with member states and the UN system. During the episode, Dr. Smith shares her views on crucial developments and achievements in the world of atrocity prevention throughout her tenure. She also discusses her plans for advancing R2P and the protection of vulnerable populations around the globe.