In this episode, Clay speaks with JP Abercrumbie. JP is the Executive Associate Athletics Director for Culture & Engagement at the University of Notre Dame, where she is responsible for leading the diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts for Notre Dame Athletics.
JP and Clay discuss all things diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). Including the importance of understanding and authenticity, why her role exists, what DEI looks like at ground level, and how success is measured. They also explore whether universities are trading excellence for opportunity or altering standards. Walk through the importance of discourse and how to handle disagreements. And finally collect JP’s perspective on activism on campus, BLM, George Floyd and the summer of 2020, compelled behavior, creating environments where progress is possible, and the difference between hearing and listening.