來賓｜Asiyan Karangiyan 阿希鴦．卡壤以漾
原創音樂提供：牧庫恩〈太在乎〉（原曲為Ispalakan家族的警察先生巴尼杜兒創作）
Asiyan 是屏東三地門鄉賽嘉村的排灣族青年，也是民族小學的老師；她前陣子去司馬庫斯，最有感觸之一是不同族群或不同部落的孩子，可能有很不一樣的成長歷程。
察覺「不同」才是同理心的開始。
最近真的太多沈重，因此這集沒有批判跟悲憤，而是思考著自我覺察的議題，更準確來說是跟阿嘟（排灣語：adju 姊妹）沒有壓力的隨便聊聊談心。可能還順便有徵友的部份。這集適合晚上睡前聽喔。
Pocast what's up umav EP85 introduction:
Asiyan is a Payuan youth from Tjailjaking Village. Recently, she visited Qalang Smangus, a Atayal community in Hsinchu. And one of her realizations was that children from different ethnic groups or tribes might have very different upbringing experiences( even though we share the similar identity as "the indigenous") Recognizing these "differences" is the starting point of empathy.
This episode doesn't involve criticism or sorrow. Instead, it reflects on self-awareness.
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