There is no playbook for leadership. Leaders face a continuously changing environment that sometimes requires decisions that might seem unusual. In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, Adam and John listen back on an interview with Todd Wagner at CLC 2018. He shares stories of when unconventional thinking helped him solve complex leadership problems. For more information and other resources, visit https://www.watermarkresources.com/clp/7155-contrarian-leadership
Church Leaders Conference is Watermark Resources’ annual event designed to refresh, equip, and inspire church leaders. Whether you’re a senior pastor, small group leader, tech director, or serve in operations, CLC offers two full days of practical training, biblical encouragement, and behind-the-scenes access to real ministry in action. Through main stage sessions, over 50 breakout options, and live ministry showcases, attendees gain tools and insights to strengthen their leadership and better serve their local churches. Join us on April 27-28 or April 29-30, 2026 in Dallas, TX. Learn more and register at CLC26.com.