Except they’re not undoing the money and trust lost. At least not right away.
You can still vote for my courses with your email address and your heart:
Hello welcome to Daily(ish)) for December 13th 2017. It’s two degrees out feels like minus 2 Celsius but this is not a weather podcast, but this is brought to you by my Patron supporters still there still Patron still around and kicking Patreon.com/ichris is where you can check out my now two-year-old video on why you should support me on Patron.
I think it’s time to update that one. If only because my son is much older and different than he is in the video and maybe I am too. I don’t know well, I’m definitely older. But yeah patreon.com/ichris is where you can check out how you can support me, and I’m joking if you don’t have no idea why I would be literally laughing about the idea of patrons still being around then thankfully you’ve had you’ve been blissfully unaware of any sort of Internet controversy of the week, maybe you’ve been blissfully unaware of that internet controversy.
Anyways about a week ago Patron announced a plan to change their fee structure. So without going into huge detail they were basically going to take the transaction fees service fees whatever you want to call them and move them from being on the craters account effectively mine, to the pledge the patrons, account yours in a sense anybody who supports me, so and there’s specifics and numbers and stuff in there, but basically they were going to change that such that so that the the marketing message anyways was the creators get to take home more money so the creators will be happy now explain that to your patrons, and hopefully they all stick around and are happy to do that as well.
The problem being that and I posted something to my patrons as well. Just saying like I’m not sure it happened on the day when I was really busy, and so I wasn’t sure didn’t have time to fully come take it all in but just saying like hey, this is happening. Read up if you want. Let me know if you have any questions, and we’ll see you sort of as the week wore on it was basically a week ago now that they announced this and and there was going to go into effect December 18th, and and it had other things to do with other changes they were wanting to do basically because they have sort of some folks that are on monthly things where which all of you are if you’re supporting me on Patreon and on or near the end of the month it. Charge you or whatever for your patronage, and and then you get access to all the stuff. That’s you know hidden or whatever or locked to patrons only on my patreon account for the rest of the month, and then they charge you again, and it repeats. But what if somebody joins up the what they’re thinking was like what if somebody and the confusion is somebody joins in December 15th. Let’s say, and they don’t get charged until December 30th, but they already get access to it, all the bonuses or whatever of being a patron and then they quit before money is ever changed hands. That was one issue, so they wanted to be able to like change the payment cycle, so that a patron when you sign up on the 15th of the 12th or the 17th, whatever, all of that should be just tied to whenever you sign up rather than just being a monthly thing.
Which kind of makes sense I get that I don’t deal with stuff for I’m giving away digital downloads and things like that a lot. There’s certainly bit of that with the courses and stuff that I’m doing but really course so far, but the ones I’m creating you know if somebody I’ve effectively given them to people patrons whatever level you’re supporting me yet and especially if you’ve been supporting me for a while there.
Someone new signs up, and then just gets that access code, and then go to San downloads the $20 course or whatever for free and then quits my Patron accounts supports, then you know the kind of Innocence stolen, I guess I don’t know I’m in it for the long term and don’t really anticipate that being a huge issue for the kind of stuff I do but I sympathize with creators who do deal with that kind of stuff so and there’s other stuff.
So anyways all that to say. Huge uproar response from the internet basically pointing out, you know some issues with that people who donates which third of my supporters would be sort of in this one to two dollar-a-month support range, then effectively your your support is almost not doubling, but it’s going up quite a bit per month when you were agreeing to $1 month now it’s going up $2 $25 30 per month basically and so. 2.9% of the transaction plus 35 cents fee basically so actually more than that so like a buck 45 Buck. 50. I’m terrible at math especially live podcasting math - the money you’d be donating would going up obviously and so it’s it hurts a lot of the smaller donation or people who may be donated a lot to patreon, but it’s spread amongst a bunch a whole bunch of Patreon campaigns, and so either way a lot of people would stand to lose a lot of patronage if those people all went away. It would kind of suck to have two instead of giving $1 your now giving dollar-for-dollar fire 45 to 50 or whatever in so there’s a huge uproar from both patreon creators as well as people who support patreon like me. I’m lucky in that. I’m not as I said to my message to my current patrons. I’m not in a position where Pateon is supporting my living like it’s not my livelihood it. Helps us with goodstuff fees and things like that for sure.
We just had our registration for good stuff that FM the domain name is like 90 bucks a year because it’s a dot fm and so that helps to pay for that keep us in in business so to speak that way as well as our podcast hosting and our web hosting all that kind of stuff, but so it’s not my livelihood, but it is you know helps pay the bills.
So in response to that Patreon now just today on Wednesday December 13 six days later have...
