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Branded content has long since blurred the line between marketing and media — but where is it heading next? In this episode of Hard Refresh, host Andrés López-Varela is joined by Amaury Treguer (Bread Agency), Kate O’Connor (Consultant, formerly BBC Studios/Bluey), and Keshnee Kemp (Founder, August One; former Head of Content, Woolworths) to debate whether audiences really care who’s behind the stories they consume. 

Together they tackle whether branded content undermines journalism, the rise of brands as entertainment platforms, and if subscription models could transform content from marketing into a business in its own right .

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This episode was recorded on the traditional lands of the Whadjuk Noongar people, live at State of Social '25.