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Social media has been the beating heart of digital marketing for two decades — but is it already past its peak? In this episode of Hard Refresh, host Andrés López-Varela is joined by Eugene Healey (brand strategist, educator, and creator), Meg Coffey (Founder, State of Social), and Steph Edwards (Head of Social Content & Creative, WiredCo) to debate what the next 25 years hold. 

From video-first platforms and social commerce to the rise of AI “slop” and the decline of mainstream feeds, the panel explores whether we’re heading toward smaller niche communities, entertainment-driven platforms, or something stranger still .

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This episode was recorded on the traditional lands of the Whadjuk Noongar people, live at State of Social '25.