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We return to two caregivers who poignantly described the Winter Surge in Southern California in our episode "COVID-19 Realities," in January 2021. Listener advisory: The effects on these caregivers of treating unvaccinated patients is startling.

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Zahra Esmail, DO

Palliative Care Physician

Providence Little Company of Mary Medical Center

Torrance, Calif.

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Christina Rothans, LCSW

Palliative Care Social Worker

Providence Little Company of Mary Medical Center

Torrance, Calif.

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We discuss the challenge of getting public health messages to compete with economic messaging in a culture that is predisposed to treat the market with primacy.��

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Binyamin Appelbaum��

Lead writer on Economics & Business, author of "The Economists' Hour"

The New York Times Editorial Board

New York, N.Y.

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Finally, we turn to a therapist to ask about strategies for moving beyond the anger that many feel with the resurgence of serious illness and deaths with the Delta wave �����something that could have been prevented with a higher percentage of vaccination.��

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Alexandra Fleming, MSW, LICSW

Therapist

Swedish Center for Perinatal Bonding and Support

Nurturing Wisdom Therapy

Seattle, Wash.��

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