Intro: Gina and Jen talk peasant DNA, jobs, the specific experience of being employed by the Catholic Church and how that convinced Nicolas Cage to hire Jen, making the quarterfinals of the CineStory TV writing contest.
Let Me Run This By You: on the topic of Woo Woo culture, does one have to buy in to the whole culture or can they just adopt the tenets? Also, having a finely tuned bullshit meter, the allure of MLMs, spending $90k at the Bodhi Tree, The Power of Now, The Secret, Oprah's podcast,
Interview: We talk to Larry Bates! The agony of clashing with your Audition class teacher, wanting to attend a "prestigious-sounding" school, almost becoming an aeronautical engineer, almost auditioning in New Orleans with a monologue by a quadriplegic character, My Children! My Africa!, the various factors that might play into choosing a school in Chicago (proximity to the Bears among them), living in U Hall, Sanctuary, the bliss of ignorance, choosing to transition away from being the class clown, having to maintain an academic scholarship in a setting where you're being graded on your art, charming your teachers, Antigone, Diary of Anne Frank, A Raisin in the Sun, being pre-cast in Six Degrees of Separation, Peter Pan, The Mountaintop, when people with unrealized artistic dreams are teachers who project their inadequacies on to you.
TRANSCRIPT:
Jen Bosworth-Ramirez (00:00:08):
I'm Jen Bosworth-Ramirez.
Gina Pulice (00:00:09):
and I'm Gina Pulice.
Jen Bosworth-Ramirez (00:00:11):
We went to theater school together. We survived it, but we didn't quite understand it.
Gina Pulice (00:00:15):
20 years later, we're digging deep -talking to our guests about their experiences and trying to make sense of it all.
Jen Bosworth-Ramirez (00:00:20):
We survived theater school and you will too. Are we famous yet?
Gina Pulice (00:00:31):
Really? I actually, I started to write a blog post. I couldn't,
Gina Pulice (00:00:34):
I've been really like struggling to figure out what I would want a topic for a blog post to be. And, um, so I was looking through my notes folder, where I keep all my little ideas and, and I had always wanted to write an essay about how I've had 37 jobs. And I wanted to write about, yeah, I've had 37 jobs, but of course I don't want to just list all my jobs I have to, you know, and it has to be gearing up to a point, but it got me down a rabbit hole yesterday because I started the essay by talking about how my doing my own DNA revealed I'm 100% peasant. Like there is not one, you know, noble or even anybody living above the poverty line.
Jen Bosworth-Ramirez (00:01:24):
Really. Wow.
Gina Pulice (00:01:26):
And so it makes a lot of sense because when I have a big job, like Aaron is frequently commenting.
Gina Pulice (00:01:33):
Wow. You just, uh, you just keep working, you just, you know, put your head down and keep working. And I'm like, yeah, what's, what's the alternative. But in my family, I think I got my first official job. I mean, it was a babysitter, et cetera, but I think I got my first official job kind of late because I was 17 and my sister worked all the way through high school. She worked, started working at the dairy queen. I think she was just barely 14. And my dad started working early. And, uh, anyway, so it's like, work is like, the work ethic is really, that's the one thing I'll say about my, you know, my family that's unequivocally positive. Is that everybody works hard. Yeah. You know, I have no slackers in my family,
Jen Bosworth-Ramirez (00:02:17):
No slackers. And I think, you know, I, the guy I used to date that then died, he used to say, he used to say, um, loopy. That was my nickname. He would say, loopy, you are a worker, a worker, and a doer. You come from peoples that are workers and doers. You're a real doer. And that can be great. And that can also be a trap. Right. So doing, doing, as we know is, but it's gotten me. I've probably had, I probably haven't had 37, but I've had a lot. And you know that you and I had the same job.
Gina Pulice (00:02:51):
I just, you got to tell everybody the story about the job we had.
Jen Bosworth-Ramirez (00:02:55):
Well, you had at first, so there was a church. Um, I won't name it because I don't know. I ...
