Intro: Gina and Jen talk pitch decks, learning new skill sets, Circle of Confusion Fellowship, the conundrum of praise, query letters, literary management, and negging.
Let Me Run This By You: codependency, why is it always our job to protect assholes?, invalidation, fear of conflict. Also, Heaven's Gate, Wild Wild Country, post-pandemic travel plans, and LA Influencers.
Interview: We talk to Nick Bowling! Dreams of Gene Kelly, "determining your path", The Lesson, Free Will and Wanton Lust, Mother Courage and Her Children, Kevin Hagan, Tristan and Isolde, building an ice moon with hot burning plastic in a classroom filled with water directly above a computer lab, Mary Zimmerman, Timeline Theatre, The Killing Game, Glascott's, antiques, Pat Tiedemann, PJ Powers, Brock Goldberg. Juliet Hart, John Guare, playing head games as a director, mentorship, Conner Wilson, History Boys, Joe Slowik, and Jim Ostholthoff.