We talk to Brian Casel about launching ZipMessage and growing a SaaS business (vs a productize service). We talk to him about his previous business successes, how he got started programming, and how he's thinking about growing ZipMessage.
00:00 Intro
01:08 Brian's backstory
05:35 Scaling by hiring more people
09:40 ZipMessage
12:22 Audience Ops
13:14 Move towards software businesses
18:14 Christian's backstory
20:42 Chris's backstory
21:38 Tech stack: Rails vs React vs Laravel
28:24 ZipMessage company structure
30:26 Business structure: selling just part of an LLC
33:13 What to spending money on
38:18 Freemium
42:44 Buying a Tesla
48:01 Reading books
49:29 Investing thoughts
54:23 Outro
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