In Episode 3 of the Naughty by Nature podcast, Treen and Michael Gungor, musician and host of The Liturgist Podcast, breach the taboo topic (in Christian circles) of ‘Deconstruction’.
Matched with John Itiola, a comedian who plays an overworked and underappreciated version of ‘God’, this trio divulges the challenges that come from questioning Christian constructs.
Non-Christians might wonder, why is it so hard to leave Evangelicalism? This episode addresses the plethora of fears and beliefs that come with saying goodbye to the Christian church. Treen and Michael discuss the unique hang ups in their deconstruction journeys, the power of mystical experiences and both the chaos and freedom that ensued.
They get real, raw, and giggle…a lot!
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00:00 Welcome to the Naughty by Nature Podcast
00:39 Meet God and God’s “most favorite” son, Michael Gungor
01:59 The Journey of Deconstruction
05:14 Defining Deconstruction
09:28 A Moment of Surrender
18:08 Mystical Experiences and Support
22:55 The Role of Shame and Fear
24:48 Clearing the Air with God: A Holy Moment
25:47 Deconstructing Spiritual Warfare and Fear: The Mark of the Beast
28:32 Taboo Topics: Masturbation, Polyamory, and Other Deities
30:08 Reclaiming Faith: A New Perspective on God
32:08 Stages of Deconstruction: A Humorous Take
33:49 Questions Every Believer Encounters
36:08 Reclaiming Christianity: Integrating the Past
40:16 Final Thoughts and Farewells
