When it comes to getting stronger, the mainstream advice is almost always the same: lift heavier, push harder, and chase the biggest numbers possible. But is that really the smartest way to train for the long run? In this episode of The Phi Life Podcast, John Barban and Brad Pilon dig deep into one of Brad’s favorite themes—things I think but cannot prove—and explore whether lifting heavy is truly necessary for building strength and muscle.
The conversation kicks off with a look back at their own powerlifting days, where training revolved around max effort sessions, dynamic effort days, and endless repetitions of the bench, squat, and deadlift. Both John and Brad have lived the heavy lifting lifestyle, and they know firsthand the appeal of chasing bigger numbers on the bar. But as they revisit those experiences through the lens of science, longevity, and injury prevention, a very different picture starts to emerge.
Drawing on research from experts like Stu Phillips, the guys discuss the surprising evidence that lighter weights, when lifted with intensity or speed, can build just as much muscle as heavy weights. The key, they argue, may not be the absolute load you lift but the way you train your body to handle it. Explosive movements, repeated efforts, and smart programming might deliver all the strength benefits without the risks that come from constantly pushing maximum loads.
This raises a critical question: for most people who aren’t competing in powerlifting or Olympic lifting, is training with maximal weights even necessary—or is it just the test, not the training itself? John and Brad explore this distinction, pointing out that while world-class athletes need specificity, everyday lifters and even young athletes may benefit more from submaximal, dynamic work that prioritizes form, speed, and safety over raw numbers.
The episode also dives into the psychology of training. Why do so many people obsess over heavier weights? Because strength is easy to measure. Muscle gain and body composition changes are harder to track, so strength becomes the default metric—even when it’s not aligned with someone’s actual goals. This mindset, they argue, can lead people down a path of unnecessary risk and injury, especially as they age.
By the end of the discussion, listeners are left with a fresh perspective: maybe the smartest way to get stronger isn’t about chasing the heaviest lifts year-round. Instead, it’s about building a base of solid, repeatable training and occasionally testing yourself—rather than constantly living under maximal loads. Whether you’re just getting started in the gym, a weekend warrior, or someone in midlife looking to stay strong without breaking down, this episode will challenge the way you think about strength training.
Tune in, and discover why you don’t always have to lift heavy to get stronger—and why sometimes, lifting faster may be the smarter path forward.
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