Meril Wallace is the cider maker at Talbott's Cider Co. and a wine maker for Centennial Cellars. He joins the pod to discuss his recent endeavors as well as how much time kids spend outside, parental paranoia, how humans analyze risk, getting uncomfortable in travel and the outdoors, airport bars, being a river guide, the only free-flowing river in Colorado, art and snobbery, why creative teachers can't be trusted, why you should drink one beer a day, what it's like to guide a multi-month tour, the two best parts of travel, the quietest place on earth, and more.
