Ben Parsons is the Owner and Winemaker of Ordinary Fellow Winery in downtown Palisade. He joins the pod to talk about his recent trip to London, English sparkling wine, the traits of a true English pub, Ordinary Fellow's recent awards, the highest-scoring Colorado wine ever, European gap years, how Hitler used wine to fund WWII, immigrating from England to Australia on a 10-pound ferry, the lack of love for Colorado wine, moving to the U.S. two days before September 11th, how Infinite Monkey Theorem challenged (and changed) the wine industry, how he decided to keg and can wine, why he stepped away from Infinite Monkey, the benefits of criticism, the idea for a train between Grand Junction, Fruita, and Palisade, how to fix winter in Palisade, and more.