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Yes, that Seth Godin! What an amazing opportunity to interview Seth on the podcast. He was so very generous with his time. I asked him questions like the following: How do you teach kids to connect the dots?

Failure freezes. How do you make failing safe?

Can everyone succeed being independent? How can the little guy compete with someone like Walmart?

How do you help teachers not want to be competent anymore?

How do you measure the experience? How do you know if has been successful?

If we give kids the ability to dream, they’ll figure out the grammar and history the minute it helps them reach their dreams.

Also, please be sure to sign up for the Transformative Leadership Summit to learn from some of the greatest minds in education today!

How to make a ruckus in a highly bureaucratic, slow moving monstrosity that is education.

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