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“The world is so empty if one thinks only of mountains, rivers & cities; but to know someone who thinks & feels with us, & who, though distant, is close to us in spirit, this makes the earth for us an inhabited garden.” ― Goethe

In the first interview of the Fifth Column podcast, Gerry shares a conversation with Rev. Michael Thompson, an ordained priest, lawyer, activist, and dear friend, about the importance of community in increasingly hostile times, the true biblical message, and taking a stand against the New American Barbarism.

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