In this week’s podcast, Richard speaks to Professor Yoshiyuki Nagata, Vice Director of the Sacred Heart Institute for Sustainable Futures (SHISF) in Tokyo. During the conversation, Yoshi shares his reflections on the Decade of Education for Sustainable Development - including its successes and some of the barriers to change. He also talks about the shift from Education for Sustainable Development to Learning for Sustainable Lifestyles and what this means for the future of education.