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Episode 3 Bygone Era

Mark introduces the topic for this episode.  The notion of there being a bygone era. Jim suggested the topic given the current political landscape and the guys explore other applications of the notion in life
Mark reads the Google definition
Jim comes in and suggests that we have entered a new era. He brings of his 5 W framework and the concept of self awareness (Who,what,when,where and why)
Jim cites The Biden administration and his cronies being part of this "bygone era"
He claims everyone wants to remain relevant
Mark recalls his start in recruiting and how technology and communication has evolved since then. How important self awareness is to stay current
Jim brings up sports - coaches are aging out. Specifically Andy Reid of the Chiefs and Bill Belichick  as examples
JIm reflects on Joe Biden's legacy is sad
Mark mentions his brother's retirement and says Biden is retiring. Jim says no…he got fired
We're all gonna retire someday. Jim says at some point it's time to pull back. He reminds us of how our adult children keep us honest and current
Mark reflects on his appreciation for Jim's candor in disagreeing with him
The value of hanging out with people who are kind, not nice. Jim agrees and shares his opinion as to why this is
Jim's quote - "You can't kill a thought.  It has to die of old age or natural causes"
He cites the military as an example and then brings up all the "thoughts" that have recently died of natural causes DEI, etc…
Mark reminds us of Vince Lombardi type coaching as well as old leadership styles involving giving orders
Jim shares his personal coaching experiences with WWII trained coaches. Football and the military. Then he shares how he's seen the new coaching style emerged starting with Bill Walsh. His approach was more intellectual
Mark brings up the current concussion protocol and how it used to be getting your bell rung and smelling salts
Jim talks about rising to the top and how that exposes you to criticism. Some people can handle this and most can't. Biden couldn't
Mark shares his daughter's experience reaching the top of her profession and the pressure. The price you pay for being on top
What chapters have closed?  It's time to move on and many won't want to. They'll cling to the bygone era as if it's not yet bygone
Jim brings up Hollywood as an example of a group who won't likely move on
Mark clarifies that just because you're good at one thing doesn't meant mean you are good at anything else. Jim and Mark reflect on Hollywood in the 40's and 50's versus today. Old stars went to war. Athletes went to war. Today the stars are pampered and can hide from their lack of credibility
The guys get deeper into how things used to be. Patriotism and service…is this a bygone era?
Jim shares his story about the Japanese soldier (Hiro Anoda) who fought for 30 years after the war was over because he couldn't believe it was over. Are we fighting wars that don't exist
Mark shares how he fought his divorce battle far past when he should have stopped
"Doesn't it take two people to fight?"  What if you just stopped?
Jim shares a similar story about a good friend of his. "You need to create your own rules. Create a whole new game"
Sometimes we stop being served by our old rules and we need to change
Jim shares another story about his current high school's football team and how dramatically some rules have changed…the world has changed…it's a bygone era
Mark ends with his stubborn Starbucks policy story:)