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Mark starts with a summary of the clubs philosophy and the flywheel and the 5 areas of life

He mentions his own recent battle with self doubt and can relate to middle aged men who get much of their self worth from their careers, and what happens when they are faced with a career change

Jim reiterates what we use as our foundational structure and goes into the topic of today - self doubt

Jim talks about the connection between self doubt and self worth

Mark reads a definition of self doubt from a Google search

Mark shares his most recent challenge with self doubt.  He first mentions how he leaned on colleagues and friends for support

Mark shares the detail of his "big deal" and how self doubt crept in

He shares how grateful he was to have tools and resources to lean of to overcome his fears

Jim, as usual, wants to break it down

He proposes that Mark might have been in a protective mode and Mark agrees

He goes on to suggest that he probably had some subconscious drivers that he couldn't even understand. He also shares how much of how we react is based on being in survival mode

Mark mentions his divorce and Jim says even though that was "a long time ago" it is likely still lingering and impacting his confidence

Jim share a quote - "A bad day for the ego is a good day for the soul"

Mark agrees and suggests that his self worth was at stake

Mark's deal went through and he shares how cathartic the win was

He also shares his gratitude and Jim appreciates it and Mark says we don't do anything good by ourselves

Jim observes how much work Mark did and how he took some chances. Mark relates his recruiting work to this deal and how little context he had with this project. While doing his work he got no feedback until it was go time

Jim brings up Mark's other situation that he shut down, which opened this "other door"

Mark shares his experience with how difficult it was for him to get out of an emotionally draining situation and how it may have opened this new door because it freed up space, time and energy

You have to shed that which does not serve you

Jim shares the analogy of running with ankle weights and how it felt when you took the weights off

Mark appreciates Jim's help and how valuable it is to have a coach and how men feel they should go it alone and how people actually are flattered when you ask for help

Self doubt leads to lower self worth and that can lead to depression and even suicide

The guys share some suicide stats

Mark says he feels like we are living in the most confusing uncertain times in his whole life

Jim brings up the notion of having a "second act" in life when your primary career comes to an end

Mark brings in the context of worldview and how much noise there is in the world. He shares his gratitude for having tools available to him to overcome self doubt and fear

Jim explains the reason for starting the club - a place to go for men to share and support each other

Mark explains the difference between safe spaces and this safe space

Jim talks about how we speak with ourselves so critically and how the media makes all this worse

Mark agrees about how much media and politicians mislead and scare to divide

Jim brings up the discovery around electric cars and the guys add in the solar, wind and climate change hoaxes

Mark talks about how he moves from "I don't know" to either knowing or dismissing an issue

They wrap up with how important contribution is and Mark ends with how self awareness was triggered and then how he reacted to get better and not bitter