Mark starts out with western medicine and frames it from raising kids to present day
The guys both believe the system is broken
Jim wants to personalize the story…his dad passed before Covid and ht family is grateful he passed able to be with family 2019
Jim talks about his friend who died alone during Covid, who died from a "Covid related" issue
He tells a third story about people losing everything to the healthcare system in the last days of their lives
Mark tells his childhood story of his knee prognosis - surgery or no surgery
Mark tells the story about his dog and pediatrician:)
Question everything
Mark talks about taking the kids to doctors when they were young
The pharmaceutical industry and it's corruption
The guys talk about nurses and doctors and the system and it's broken nature
Jim talks about the fact that they "practice" medicine and are flawed
Then they go into our food system and the poison that is our food
Mark asks, "aren't we responsible for our own health?" And then transitions into the holistic alternative
The whole medical industry contributes to the problem
Mark talks about his fathers health journey - 94 years young
Mark talks about personal choices
Jim talks about the placebo effect
Mark and Jim disagree about doctors, Mark is more skeptical
Mark blames all the institutions surrounding the delivery of care - CDC, FDA, AMA, insurance companies, etc…
Jim talks about the collusion between all these entities
Mark throws Fauci under the bus with all the other politicians
Mark talks about questioning doctors and the gender confusion issue
Medicine is a business, it's a profit driven business
Jim shares a story about his neck surgery then and now from his rugby days…very compelling…second opinions
Mark applauds Jim's decision
They both talk about emotional issues manifesting into physical maladies
Doctors are human and therefore imperfect - you need to question diagnosis and how many different entities are driving medical decisions
Jim shares some personal details about some behaviors that impact his health
Mark talks about self care and tells his daughter's "sting" experience with the department of health
Jim says if you walk into a doctors office, you'll walk out sick
Mark tells his story about the heart surgeon who had a heart attack and how it changed his approach to wellness
Jim shares his carnivore diet story
Mark concludes about how fear makes people do things they wouldn't normal do
Covid was a farce and take your health into your own hands
Make good choices. The choice is yours
Jim says do the right thing 80% of the time and you'll be good
