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The guys are talking about triggers.  We all have them

Knowing what your triggers are makes them easier to handle

This involves self awareness and that takes work

Mark mentions pausing when you get triggered

Triggers in this context are negative

Pausing allows you to regain objectivity

Jim talks about triggers from his childhood and younger years

When you allow yourself to be triggered all kinds of bad things can happen

Jim brings up our flywheel and the 5 areas

Profession - what kind of bosses have you had. Mark cites a LinkedIn post that he commented on where his story was similar but the end was different. Jim talks about the uncertainty and failure that is being and inventor

Money is loaded with triggers.  Scarcity to abundance.  Both our parents and grandparents come from scarcity families. Mark mentions his dad and Jim his mom

Worldview - Trigger land with politics.  Jim brings up the Gaza conflict and his anger for the current administration.  Both guys talk about limiting media intake to avoid getting so triggered

Mark says politicians and media are triggering us on purpose.  Jim says what’s happening now is a religious war and that shapes our worldview. Mark shares a car accident story and how we are triggered by tragedy.

Health - Mental health is where the triggers are.  Mental health needs constant attention. Mark shares his aging process and how it triggers emotions

Relationships - Men and woman..Mark says men are different.  Men do confidence, competition and simple things.  Jim says men are simpler and Jim says woman armor complicated and clever as well

Mark weaves in a story about his ex wife and her triggering strategy.  Jim has a friend in a similar toxic ex-wife relationship and kids

Mark tells part of his ex-wife story…talk about triggers and her manipulation techniques

Jim’s perspective in support of Mark

Mark and Jim are both fascinated with human behavior

Both guys have a good laugh and give their understanding that her bad behavior is driven by anger and sadness

Mark gives some details and they both identify this behavior as projection

Jim tells a story about his Europe trip and his interaction with his wife regarding spending so much time together and how they got along

Mark identifies this as a transformative moment - empty nest

Mark’s ex comes back into the story - a lack of self-awareness

Jim says a lot of people are outwardly shiny but inwardly miserable

Mark says the external stuff is not how you get to happy.  Happy is all internal

Fear based versus love based decisions

Mark brings up gratitude and how long his list is when he thinks about it

Jim ties in humility and how powerful that emotion can be.  How adversity shapes us

Jim brings up AA members and how self accountable they are

Skilled sailors are built on rough seas

Mark’s ex comes back in again - Jim plays psychologist

Jim mentions the difference between knowledge and wisdom

Wisdom is born of experience