Mark introduces the deep dive Jim took into the writing of Carl Jung and the specific topic he writes about - self talk
Mark thinks most us have more negative self talk than positive
Jim adds context - Jim likes stuff related to our podcast and our wheel. Particularly the self. He goes around our flywheel. When you're challenging yourself, self talk can creep in
Mark says this voice is powerful and not always positive. It's also often subconscious. Mark reads the definition
Mark reads Jung's 5 archetypes
The Good Student
The Silent Healer
The Starving Artist
The Invisible One
The Over Giver
Jim found himself in all 5. Mark thinks he has 4…not the good student
Jim shares that we become these types from childhood and from all kinds of different mentors and relatives
Jim thinks the world is looking for authentic people more than ever
Mark thinks things are changing as opposed to already there. He thinks light shines on everything eventually. You can't hide much. He tries to lead with authenticity and does believe anyone can hide anything. Jim calls it "rescripting"
Mastery comes through action
Mark struggles with an overload of information. He separates knowledge and wisdom and talks about failure as learning. In order to be OK with failure you have to work thru this inner voice shit
Leadership is sharing authentic self. Mark talks about treating others like we treat ourselves
Mark goes thru all 5 in more detail with Jim. As far as value, Jim thinks agents are important for negotiating one's value. He talks about being an inventor and how he needs to create to be fulfilled. Mark say the value of things is what the market is willing to pay. Mark thinks we speak differently to ourselves depending on our circumstances, but we can reframe all these voices with effort.
They discuss the starving artist in terms of real painters. Picasso, Van Gogh and Gotti. Mark shares that he has sought out the opinions of others in times of self doubt for support, but that he feels that he needs to work on unblocking himself. He appreciates blissful ignorance and Jim cites how the young don't have enough experience to overthink things or speak poorly to themselves.
Mark tries to serve others without any expectation in return…but it's not easy. Mark shares his awareness of having control over this and the routines he's adopted to exercise control over his inner voices. He has results from this routine and he chooses to influence his inner voice. He thinks all of us have all 5 tendencies and most of us are predominantly 1 or 2.
Jim brings back up Mark's faith and Jim stoic leanings. They compare and contrast the two. Jim shares his experience with the Stoics and Mark gives his opinion on Catholicism. He speaks to the structure and frameworks of the Catholic religion
