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The "Dickens of Detroit," Elmore Leonard, crafts an ambitious crime story about a fish-out-of-water gangster that plays with metafiction and postmodernism. In episode 140, join Luke & James as they follow Chili Palmer's adventures in Hollywood trying to get involved in the movie business.

Topics: the Tarantino feels, the power of a calm badass, the Literary Lineage of Elmore Leonard, a master of dialogue, avoiding writing that sounds like writing, the Godfather & Scarface similarities, an unexpected exploration of toxic masculinity, and the dream of Hollywood.

Join them next week for their episode on the film starring John Travolta, Gene Hackman, Rene Russo, and Danny DeVito!

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Intro/outro music: Godfather – UniversalFreeBeats