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For nearly 15 years, David Brooks has been a conservative columnist—for much of that time, the lone conservative columnist—on the New York Times op-ed page.

In the latest episode of The Jamie Weinstein Show, Brooks talks about how his view of Trump has changed over the years, what he would focus on if he found himself in the Oval Office, his surprising relationship with Steve Bannon, how Bill Buckley helped propel his career, and much more.

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