“You have to forgive yourself today to do your best tomorrow.”
Notable Moments
00:43 –Mike Simmons, Co-host of Catalyst Sale Podcast
01:23 – Question 1: Who is your favorite Marvel character and why?
03:05 – Question 2: What themes have carried through your personal and professional journey?
06:35 – Question 3: What does “Do your best and forgive yourself” mean to you?
07:54 – Admiral Payne’s legacy and how the quote guides his mindset
08:30 – How forgiveness fuels tomorrow’s best effort
Mike Simmons joins to bring back one of my favorite formats where a guest returns to ask three unscripted questions. The things he asks me dive into unexpected territory, from my favorite Marvel character (spoiler: it’s The Punisher) to the three life themes that have shown up in every role I’ve held: storytelling, recognition, and going the extra inch. Then, Mike brings up the quote that grounds so much of my work: “Do your best and forgive yourself,” passed down through the Cockerell family from Admiral Payne. I unpack what it really means to take action, accept outcomes, and keep moving forward, especially when things don’t go perfectly.
Read my blog for more on how this quote can reshape how you show up for yourself and others.
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