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Bread has had such a bad press lately – we talk to a campaigning baker who has found ways to enjoy her own produce despite a sensitivity to wheat. Discover the secrets of good bread and why it has a place in your diet. 

If you're boggled by bread or afraid of Big Bad Gluten, this podcast is a must-listen. Because bread and other grains can form a brilliant part of a healthy diet for most of us. 

In this interview with micro-baker Frances Reid, we learn:

 And if you want to try baking your own, learn

Plus how to find good bread if you don't have time to bake your own. And Kate talks about her own experiments with sourdough baking – and the tips she includes in The Dirty Diet: Ditch the Guilt, Love your Food.