Brian doesn't say much in this podcast... probably because he doesn't have a microphone.
Carey and Dondee come in and they're already midway into a conversation that started long ago. It's about Instagram, fashion vs. glamour, staying true to yourself vs. chasing the likes, models, and much much more.
It's a long one. And there are lots of references to ball gags. You'll have to listen to find out. Just letting you know in advance.
References in this podcast:
https://www.instagram.com/careyhess
https://www.instagram.com/dondee_q
https://www.instagram.com/bbarreto
https://www.instagram.com/charleslucima