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Feeling overwhelmed, stuck or running on caffeine?

It may be time to pay attention to your body.

In this episode of Off Topic but On Point, Odette de Beer is joined by Dr Janine “The Intentionalist” Do C abo and Pastor Christo “The Expander” Pretorius to unpack why too many leaders neglect physical resilience—and why building strength isn’t about looks, but clarity, emotional regulation and sustainable leadership.

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This episode is for leaders, founders, change‑makers and anyone who wants to lead with alignment, energy and purpose. Tune in if you're ready to move beyond burnout and embody your full potential—and lead better from the inside out.

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