This week on Off Topic but On Point, we’re digging into the tension between staying grounded and staying open. Odette de Beer is joined by Dr. Janine Do Cabo and Pastor Christo Pretorius for a real, unscripted conversation about what it looks like to lead with conviction—and still hold things loosely.
We explore childhood lessons, business decisions, shifting beliefs, and the moments that challenge our mindset. From the truth behind “the rich rent” to parenting in today’s world, this one is full of honesty, humour, and hope.
If you're in a season of questioning, holding on, or letting go—this is your reminder that it’s not the end if it hasn’t ended well.
⏱ Episode Timestamps:
00:00 – Welcome: Why we go off topic (on purpose)
01:15 – Simon Sinek's quote that sparked it all: “Strong convictions, loosely held”
04:30 – The “hurt the soul” test: What Dr J’s mum taught her about flexibility
06:45 – Letter vs. spirit of the law: How our upbringing shapes leadership
08:30 – Breaking stupid rules & rethinking business perfectionism
11:00 – Renting vs. owning: Is it financial wisdom or emotional safety?
16:00 – Parenting dilemmas & what it teaches us about resilience
22:30 – The emotional vs. financial cost of decisions
26:00 – Why context matters: The danger of applying global advice locally
31:00 – What we know for sure: The power of faith and perspective
36:45 – When it’s hard: Why your pain has purpose
40:00 – A reminder for anyone in a hard season: “It’s not going to last”
42:00 – You’re closer than you think: The breakthrough is on its way
45:00 – David’s lion and bear: Why your past fights matter
51:00 – Final encouragement & prayer for listeners
📩 Got questions or reflections? email your questions and comments to Odette@amplifycoach.biz or send me a note @odette_de_beer_amplify_purpose on Instagram.
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