In this episode Alistair just will not shut up about swimming lessons at school.
But more seriously, we talk about body image, how it's so commonplace to comment on people's bodies growing up, and how people do or don't break away from harsh words in the changing rooms. We confront the age-old fear of getting a boner in the changing rooms and how it's totally normal and probably won't happen ever if we just realised it was a normal concern.
We chat a bit about banter among young men and particularly jokes passed down by older men, as well the impressions they leave on us. It's quite easy to look back at people we might have thought were legends when we were younger and realise they were quite sad, really. Finally we talk about what it's okay to be fond of in masculine-dominated circles. What parts of humour in male circles should be cherished and what should be called out as problematic?
Class plays into a bit too, Alistair grew up in rural Scotland and Stefan in a largely working-class town in Yorkshire, so we can't talk for everyone - but the men are the common link at the end of the day.
