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Listen to my cousin, Black American Makeba Robinson — whose parents are Jamaican American — who was born in Pennsylvania, raised in California, and then returned to Pennsylvania in her adolescence talk about working in-person at an events space and transitioning to facilitating online events for 100+ persons in 2020. She talks about leaving that job due to the difficulty in trying to facilitate 100+ people showing up on Zoom and conversing with each other. She also speaks about completing an album during the pandemic and not playing any virtual shows nor in-person performances in 2021. In 2022 she returned to performing live in-person.