Today Ben left his vibrating undies on which caused serious audio issues. We chat about Bob Lazar, AI art and taste a new international beer. Narelle returns to chat about her days at the Fremantle Dockers, including the commercial transformation of the club and early marketing campaigns. We also discuss how to get away with murder, what grates our goat and finish off with a blend in can you drink it and guess the movie. All that and more!