April and Rory discuss Robert Mitchum, Malcom Gladwell, Norwegian slow TV, April's Indiegogo.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-swell-art-gallery-with-reopening-costs?fbclid=IwAR0cBDtDupltTbn3uHcn0sKdGpeihuGBkX4FeYe0Hj5NjuNdnFGXNdzoLR0#/
