SaaS isn't dead. UI is. The moat just moved.
Assaf Weinberg (Co-Founder & CEO, SetSale) joins Andrew Duncan to dismantle the LinkedIn narratives about software in the age of AI: "code is free," "SaaS is dead," and the founder myth that hiring a developer is the bottleneck.
Chapters
- 00:00 The biggest limit on AI is what you believe it can do
- 01:23 Building SetSale before AI tools existed
- 04:31 Supastarter and the portal boilerplate origin
- 06:47 Why the cost of software isn't zero
- 07:43 The "I just need a developer" myth
- 11:09 Every software company is a data transformation engine
- 13:58 Why SaaS isn't dead
- 17:08 Capture your data or AI can't help you
- 22:20 The Austin distributor story: four days to ship
- 27:34 Artists don't sketch in marble
- 33:30 A developer's job is specification, not code
- 44:13 The new bottleneck is customer adoption
Topics
- Why AI made code cheap but didn't make software cheap
- The "I just need a developer" myth and why it was always a crutch
- UI as commodity, data and process as the only durable moat
- Why every software company reduces to a data transformation engine
- The Austin distributor visit: notetaker, AI PM, Cursor, four days to ship
- Six-week bets as the new unit of org change
- What roles look like when designers don't make mockups and developers don't write code
- The new bottleneck: customer adoption now lags engineering velocity
Guest
Assaf Weinberg, Co-Founder & CEO, SetSale
https://www.setsale.ai/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/assafweinberg/
https://x.com/assafweinberg
Resources mentioned
Sense and Respond by Jeff Gothelf and Josh Seiden: https://www.amazon.com/Sense-Respond-Successful-Organizations-Continuously/dp/1633691888
Granola (AI notetaker): https://www.granola.ai/
Supastarter (Next.js SaaS boilerplate): https://supastarter.dev/
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
Connect
Andrew Duncan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-b-duncan/
Vertice Labs: https://www.verticelabs.io
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