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Today on Stirring the Plot Podcast, your host Dayna J. Francois is joined by Winter, transmasc legend, emotionally unavailable icon, and fellow avoidant in recovery, for a conversation that might just hit a little too close to home. What happens when two avoidant besties sit down to unpack gender, religion, intimacy, and the Olympic sport of not texting back? Let’s just say… the mask comes off. This episode is for the avoidant girlies, gays, theys, and gentlethems who respond to vulnerability by ghosting, spiraling, or “accidentally” taking three weeks to reply to a message that just said “hey.” It’s for the ones who flinch at intimacy, confuse detachment with strength, and still think emotional repression is a personality trait. In this deep dive, Dayna and Winter unpack how culture, religion, gender identity, and childhood communication (or the lack thereof) shaped their adult relationships: romantic, platonic, and familial. We’re talking about growing up in environments that taught us to shrink, hide, and stay digestible, only to reach adulthood realizing we’ve been ghosting our own identities. From the fear of being perceived to the ache of being misunderstood, from navigating transmasc visibility to learning how to actually say what we feel (instead of just thinking it really loudly), this episode is equal parts mirror and medicine. So if you’ve ever sat across from someone you love and thought, “Why does this feel like a situationship in disguise?” This one’s for you. So, grab your share this with your emotionally avoidant friend, settle in, and unmask with us.

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