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Most leaders know they need systems… but keep putting them off. And that avoidance comes with a cost: overwhelm, burnout, confused teams, and constant decision fatigue.

In this episode, Chris and Steve sit down with two true masters of operational clarity:

⭐ Linzee Ciprani — Founder & CEO of Ciprani Consulting ⭐ Jerrica Kontos — Director of Consulting at Ciprani Consulting

These two bring years of operational expertise across real estate, small business, consulting, and organizational leadership — and they do not hold back. This conversation is practical, honest, and packed with insights that will challenge any leader who’s been running their business without a clear operational backbone.

Together, we break down:

💡 What You’ll Learn

🔥 Standout Moments

🎧 Who This Episode Is For

📌 Why This Matters

Systems are not about rigidity — they’re about freedom. They give leaders clarity. They give teams confidence. They give businesses the ability to grow without chaos.

If you’ve felt stuck, overwhelmed, or unsure how to take the next step in your leadership… this episode will feel like a breath of fresh air (and maybe a loving punch to the gut).