Rob and Eli Clarke, a 30 year college counselor with a master's in social work, discuss Eli's experience as a college counselor, from his methods of assisting kids and parents with the application process to how school, and mental health, shifted during Covid. The two also discussed self-care and managing one's mental health during the college application process, as well as when working with those applying. Rob shares some of his stories of the college application process and the difficult transition of moving away for college.