In this episode we launch online training that aims to highlight the power of spirituality in the delivery of health and palliative care and support the health professionals and spiritual care practitioners who do this work. Reflecting on their own experiences, we hear from South Australia’s Sara Fleming, a Nurse Practitioner, who comes to this conversation with a 23 year career in palliative care. And Luke Bowen, Chair of the Spiritual Health Association. Luke is also Director of Patient Safety, Experience and Clinical Excellence and Director of Medical Workforce at Austin Health, Victoria.